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Milan trams of this type have seen three liveries: yellow and white, as delivered on the first of this tram type in the 1920s (modeled on Muni No. 1811), this green (used from the 1930s to the 1970s) and solid orange (used on Milan trams since the 1970s, including the rest of Muni’s. Several North American cities operated this type of tram, the Peter Witt, in a wider body style, including Cleveland, Detroit, and Toronto, among others. MSR considered recommending these North American liveries, but to be consistent, that would require removing all the wonderful internal signage in Italian, which makes the trams authentically “Milanese” and have many fans.
Would love to see at least one of the Pittsburgh cars reguaged for service. Should not have any wiring problems. They both would provide reliable service.
I was in Milan last year (March 2007) and they now have Peter Witts running around in advertising livery.
@Graham Harrison
Did you get any pictures of those ad-wrapped Milanos?
I would also like to see one of the Pittsburgh cars re-gauged for service, as well as one of the St. Louis cars…
Sixteen PCCs Out for Renovation Bids
would like to become a member and receive news letters and even help work but I live back in Iowa would there be some place to stay for a couple of weeks I would be able to make a sizeable donation please advise
Sixteen PCCs Out for Renovation Bids
Gerald, please send me your email contact or phone and I will get in touch with you. Send it to me directly at rlaubscher@streetcar.org
that was an awesome peek into the past. good find!!
That’s a pretty good look at what the old covered storage at Geneva Division looked like. It’s too bad they ever tore that down…
If I remember correctly, they didn’t have to tear it down as much as keep it from falling down of its own accord. It was definitely dangerous…structurally shot and a firetrap to boot. But they could’ve replaced it with something similar at the time, and the historic fleet would’ve been a lot better off for the past 25 years.
True… having the entire historic fleet burn down in a single shot would have been a tad bit worse than weather damage I imagine!
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Were there any other colors that Milan used on their Witt fleet? Any other cities that used Peter Witts similar to Milan’s?